【西海岸】皮尔斯:若詹姆斯本赛季夺冠,就不会再有GOAT的讨论了
皮尔斯表示:“(如果詹姆斯夺冠)他将会拥用NBA历史上两项最伟大的成就,在总决赛1-3落后逆转,以及带着一支低于6号种子的球队夺冠。如果他做到了这些事,这还不能证明他是GOAT中的GOAT,那我不知道什么才可以了,无论乔丹之前做到了什么。”
皮尔斯的这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论,球迷们纷纷表示:先进季后赛吧。
[1]“别担心,他不是。”
Don’t worry, he’s not
[-]“而且永远也不会是。”
And never will be
[--]“看起来你已经被培养成喜欢乔丹的球迷了,因为其他的老家伙们都喜欢。看看80年代和90年代的NBA比赛吧。球员的能力变得更好了。如果你说没有,那你就就是疯了,哈哈。乔丹是他那个时代的GOAT,但不是所有时代的GOAT。如果我们讨论总冠军,比尔-拉塞尔才是真正的GOAT。”
Looks like you’ve been groomed to like MJ cause all the other old heads have. Watch NBA games in the 80s and 90s. The game has gotten way better. If you say no it hasn’t, you’re on crack lol. MJ the goat of his time not of all time. Bill Russell the real goat if we talking rings.
[4]“詹姆斯已经是GOAT了,但如果他这个赛季赢得了总冠军,那就没有争议了。”
lebron’s already the goat but if he wins this season there isn’t a debate
[-]“每个人都有自己的观点,记住这一点。争议是永远不会结束的,哈哈。”
People have opinions just remember that. The debate will never end lol.
[--]“但总冠军,fmvp,mvp,dpoy,得分王还是更少,等等。在一个球员健康是被关注为是最重要的问题之一的时代,詹姆斯的生涯长度很长。但除此之外,对他来说就没什么支持这一论点的案例了。一个伟大的球员,但不是GOAT。”
Still less chips, less FMVPs, less MVPs, less DPOYs, less scoring titles, etc. LeBron has longevity in an era where player health is one of the chief concerns. Beyond that, not much more of a case for him. A great, but not the GOAT
[7]“保罗-皮尔斯为了捍卫詹姆斯的历史地位和Skip Bayless在电视上PK?”
Paul Pierce defending LeBron’s legacy on tv vs Skip Bayless?
[-]“Skip才不会为詹姆斯辩护,所以要有人来当反方🤣。”
Skip aint gonna defend Bron so someone’s gotta 🤣
[9]“只是花了20个赛季和11次总决赛尝试罢了”
Only took 20 seasons and 11 attempts
[-]“为什么你们都表现得像他在总决赛才开始打比赛一样,这就是重点进入总决赛本身就是一件大事,只有2/30的球队能进入总决赛,知道吗”
Y'all act like he starts off in the Finals that's what the point is
Getting to the finals is a big thing in of itself, there's a reason it's only 2/30 teams that do so
[--]“有趣。但是当定义历史地位时....我不明白为什么4/21会大于6/15。为什么要奖励那些在更弱的赛区输给强队的人呢?”
Alright cool. But when defining legacies…. i don’t see why 4/21 can ever be greater than 6/15. Why reward someone for making it out the weaker conference to lose to better teams?
[12]“他已经是GOAT了。”
He already is the goat
[-]“他是拥有最出色的队友的超级球队的GOAT。”
He’s the goat of Super Teams with the greatest teammates
[--]“兄弟,你知道如果湖人打进季后赛,他们就会是第8号种子,对吧?所以如果詹姆斯以8号种子的身份赢得总冠军,你怎么能什么都不说呢?”
Bro you realize if the Lakers make the playoffs they’ll be the 8th seed right? So if LeBron wins the championship as an 8th seed, how can you not say anything?
[15]“关于GOAT的争论的问题在于,每个人都希望詹姆斯成为比乔丹甚至更好的球员。作为一个球员,他不是,也永远不会是。
但就职业生涯而言,毫无疑问,詹姆斯拥有有史以来最好的篮球生涯。”
The problem with the G.O.A.T debate is that everyone wants Bron to be a better player than Jordan or even Kobe. Which as a single player he isn’t and never will be. But as far as a Career there’s no debate Lebron has had the Single best Basketball Career of All times
[-]“他无疑是有史以来最好的球员。进攻不仅仅是得分,科比并不在这个范围内,他是一个打铁王,只赢得了一个MVP,有着带他赢得生涯一半以上的戒指的队友🤷️
詹姆斯没有弱点,他的全能使他凌驾于所有弱点之上”
He easily the best player ever tho? There’s more to offense than just scoring, and Kobe is not in this convo be serious, he was a shot chucker and won one MVP and was a sidekick for more than half his rings 🤷️
Bron has no weaknesses and his versatility puts him above them all
[--]“科比在防守方面也比詹姆斯强,他是一个更好的射手,他有更好的控球能力。这些都是数据无法显示的,我的朋友,你必须得关注这些方面
这是两个不同的时代,所以詹姆斯的数据看起来很疯狂,但记住科比在詹姆斯进入巅峰时获得了两个总冠军。”
Kobe is also better than Bron as a Defender he’s a better shooter he has better handle. These are things stats don’t show my guy you have to watch
2 different Eras so the Stats will look crazy for Bron but just remember Kobe got 2 Championships while Bron was in his prime
[18]“这就好比说,如果库里今年赢得MVP,就不会再有关于GOAT的争论了,因为这两件事都不会发生。”
That’s like saying there’s no more GOAT debate if Steph wins MVP this year, two things that aren’t happening
[-]“詹姆斯已经是GOAT了,库里还差得远呢,哈哈。”
LeBron already is the GOAT, Steph isn’t close lol
[--]“他只是打个比方,别这么敏感。”
He's just speaking metaphorically. Don't be so sensitive
北京时间3月30日,前NBA球星皮尔斯在参加Skip Bayless的《Undisputed》的节目时“詹姆斯若再夺一冠,是不是就能超越乔丹成为GOAT?”这一话题。
皮尔斯表示:“(如果詹姆斯夺冠)他将会拥用NBA历史上两项最伟大的成就,在总决赛1-3落后逆转,以及带着一支低于6号种子的球队夺冠。如果他做到了这些事,这还不能证明他是GOAT中的GOAT,那我不知道什么才可以了,无论乔丹之前做到了什么。”
皮尔斯的这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论,球迷们纷纷表示:先进季后赛吧。
[1]“别担心,他不是。”
Don’t worry, he’s not
[-]“而且永远也不会是。”
And never will be
[--]“看起来你已经被培养成喜欢乔丹的球迷了,因为其他的老家伙们都喜欢。看看80年代和90年代的NBA比赛吧。球员的能力变得更好了。如果你说没有,那你就就是疯了,哈哈。乔丹是他那个时代的GOAT,但不是所有时代的GOAT。如果我们讨论总冠军,比尔-拉塞尔才是真正的GOAT。”
Looks like you’ve been groomed to like MJ cause all the other old heads have. Watch NBA games in the 80s and 90s. The game has gotten way better. If you say no it hasn’t, you’re on crack lol. MJ the goat of his time not of all time. Bill Russell the real goat if we talking rings.
[4]“詹姆斯已经是GOAT了,但如果他这个赛季赢得了总冠军,那就没有争议了。”
lebron’s already the goat but if he wins this season there isn’t a debate
[-]“每个人都有自己的观点,记住这一点。争议是永远不会结束的,哈哈。”
People have opinions just remember that. The debate will never end lol.
[--]“但总冠军,fmvp,mvp,dpoy,得分王还是更少,等等。在一个球员健康是被关注为是最重要的问题之一的时代,詹姆斯的生涯长度很长。但除此之外,对他来说就没什么支持这一论点的案例了。一个伟大的球员,但不是GOAT。”
Still less chips, less FMVPs, less MVPs, less DPOYs, less scoring titles, etc. LeBron has longevity in an era where player health is one of the chief concerns. Beyond that, not much more of a case for him. A great, but not the GOAT
[7]“保罗-皮尔斯为了捍卫詹姆斯的历史地位和Skip Bayless在电视上PK?”
Paul Pierce defending LeBron’s legacy on tv vs Skip Bayless?
[-]“Skip才不会为詹姆斯辩护,所以要有人来当反方🤣。”
Skip aint gonna defend Bron so someone’s gotta 🤣
[9]“只是花了20个赛季和11次总决赛尝试罢了”
Only took 20 seasons and 11 attempts
[-]“为什么你们都表现得像他在总决赛才开始打比赛一样,这就是重点进入总决赛本身就是一件大事,只有2/30的球队能进入总决赛,知道吗”
Y'all act like he starts off in the Finals that's what the point is
Getting to the finals is a big thing in of itself, there's a reason it's only 2/30 teams that do so
[--]“有趣。但是当定义历史地位时....我不明白为什么4/21会大于6/15。为什么要奖励那些在更弱的赛区输给强队的人呢?”
Alright cool. But when defining legacies…. i don’t see why 4/21 can ever be greater than 6/15. Why reward someone for making it out the weaker conference to lose to better teams?
[12]“他已经是GOAT了。”
He already is the goat
[-]“他是拥有最出色的队友的超级球队的GOAT。”
He’s the goat of Super Teams with the greatest teammates
[--]“兄弟,你知道如果湖人打进季后赛,他们就会是第8号种子,对吧?所以如果詹姆斯以8号种子的身份赢得总冠军,你怎么能什么都不说呢?”
Bro you realize if the Lakers make the playoffs they’ll be the 8th seed right? So if LeBron wins the championship as an 8th seed, how can you not say anything?
[15]“关于GOAT的争论的问题在于,每个人都希望詹姆斯成为比乔丹甚至更好的球员。作为一个球员,他不是,也永远不会是。
但就职业生涯而言,毫无疑问,詹姆斯拥有有史以来最好的篮球生涯。”
The problem with the G.O.A.T debate is that everyone wants Bron to be a better player than Jordan or even Kobe. Which as a single player he isn’t and never will be. But as far as a Career there’s no debate Lebron has had the Single best Basketball Career of All times
[-]“他无疑是有史以来最好的球员。进攻不仅仅是得分,科比并不在这个范围内,他是一个打铁王,只赢得了一个MVP,有着带他赢得生涯一半以上的戒指的队友🤷️
詹姆斯没有弱点,他的全能使他凌驾于所有弱点之上”
He easily the best player ever tho? There’s more to offense than just scoring, and Kobe is not in this convo be serious, he was a shot chucker and won one MVP and was a sidekick for more than half his rings 🤷️
Bron has no weaknesses and his versatility puts him above them all
[--]“科比在防守方面也比詹姆斯强,他是一个更好的射手,他有更好的控球能力。这些都是数据无法显示的,我的朋友,你必须得关注这些方面
这是两个不同的时代,所以詹姆斯的数据看起来很疯狂,但记住科比在詹姆斯进入巅峰时获得了两个总冠军。”
Kobe is also better than Bron as a Defender he’s a better shooter he has better handle. These are things stats don’t show my guy you have to watch
2 different Eras so the Stats will look crazy for Bron but just remember Kobe got 2 Championships while Bron was in his prime
[18]“这就好比说,如果库里今年赢得MVP,就不会再有关于GOAT的争论了,因为这两件事都不会发生。”
That’s like saying there’s no more GOAT debate if Steph wins MVP this year, two things that aren’t happening
[-]“詹姆斯已经是GOAT了,库里还差得远呢,哈哈。”
LeBron already is the GOAT, Steph isn’t close lol
[--]“他只是打个比方,别这么敏感。”
He's just speaking metaphorically. Don't be so sensitive
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