【西海岸】莱格勒：詹姆斯已经稳坐历史第二，但他还无法超越乔丹

北京时间4月19日，前NBA球员蒂姆-莱格勒在参加ESPN的节目《Get Up》时探讨了“若詹姆斯再拿一冠是否能超越乔丹”这一问题，莱格勒表示：詹姆斯无法超越乔丹，除非他再拿一冠。

莱格勒说：“詹姆斯已经坐稳了历史第二的位置，没有什么能降低他的历史地位，但他无法超越乔丹。”这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论，球迷们纷纷表示：黑七夺冠也不行？

[1]“这就是乔丹粉丝的问题。他们表现得像乔丹是神话中的神一样。”

That’s the problem with Jordan fans. Act like he was some mythical god or something

[-]“我想说，他在芝加哥的11个健康的赛季里完成了詹姆斯20个赛季所取得的成就。这不是乔丹的错，他太超脱于时代了，当他的运动能力下降时，他成为了联盟中最好的中距离射手。”

I mean in 11 healthy seasons in Chicago he accomplished what lebron has done in 20 seasons. Not mj fault he was soo ahead of his time, and when his athleticism declined he became the best mid range shooter in the league.

[--]“乔丹是一位赢家，他带领的球队充斥着角色球员。皮蓬获得了比他应得的更多的赞誉，但乔丹的大多数队友都是防守型球员，而不是得分手。詹姆斯一直与顶级球员组队，但他10次总决赛之旅只赢了4次。他永远只能排在第二位。”

Jordan was a winner and did it with teams full of role players. Pippen gets more credit than he should but most of MJ’s teammates were stoppers, not scorers. Lebron keeps getting teamed up with top talent and only won 4 of his 10 Finals trips. Stuck at #2 for life.

[4]“正是这种偏见让媒体让詹姆斯无法赢得更多MVP和DPOY。”

This bias is why Media kept lebron from wining more MVPs and a DPOY

[-]“你的意思是媒体的偏见是他获得四次MVP的原因？”

You mean biased media is the reason he has 4 MVPs

[--]“不，他应该有6个的，不喜欢他的媒体没有给他。”

Nah, he should have 6 easy, media ppl who didn’t like him didn’t give it to him

[7]“我是詹姆斯的粉丝，但是他们怎么每隔一天就谈论这个，我对同一个话题感到厌倦。”

I’m a bron fan but how do they talk about this every other day shi tired with same npc takes

[-]“我百分之百同意。”

I 100% agree

[9]“就因为乔丹拿到了6枚总冠军戒指？这是你们唯一的论点，但让我提一下比尔-拉塞尔，他比乔丹更优秀，因为他拿到了11枚总冠军戒指，但你们又会说那是一个不同的时代。”

Cuz MJ got 6 rings? That's yall only argument but let me bring up Bill Russell being better than MJ cuz he got 11 rings and yall gonna say it was a different era

[-]“不，你完全搞错了。是因为巅峰，迈克尔-乔丹的巅峰比詹姆斯的巅峰高得多，而且永远都高得多。”

Right? People are like I hate Lebron so much… meanwhile it’s mostly because of shit like this he can’t help

[--]“如果只按巅峰计算，那么张伯伦的巅峰是最高的🤷‍️没有人能与巅峰赛季场均50分和25个篮板的数据相提并论。”

if it goes by peak only then Wilt had the highest peak 🤷‍️ can’t argue with a peak season of 50 ppg and 25 rpg

[12]“詹姆斯再次夺得总冠军将超越乔丹。但这不会发生。”

LeBron will eclipse Jordan with another championship. But that won’t happen.

[-]“他仍然会少1个总冠军并且巅峰较低，但花费的时间几乎是乔丹的两倍。”

He will still have 1 less chip and a lower peak, while taking almost twice as long to do it.

[--]“如果詹姆斯再赢一次总冠军，我期待着和你讨论这个问题。但我们都知道他赢不了掘金。”

If LeBron wins another, I look forward to debating this with you. We both know that it can't beat Denver.

[15]“他说的没错，詹姆斯熬工龄呢。”

He right bron a longevity merchant

[-]“你知道到要想熬工龄就必须有数据产出，对吧？

NBA可没有福利计划。你必须得有数据。”

You realized to have longevity you have to have production right?

Nba ain’t got a welfare program. You gotta produce

[--]“我们还在对8号种子进行假设呢🤦‍️。”

We're still engaging in hypotheticals about an 8-seed 🤦‍️

[18]“说他“绝对不可能”超越乔丹简直是疯了。他已经是史上最全能的球员，几乎出现在每一项记录榜单上。

说乔丹的巅峰>詹姆斯的巅峰是可以的，但是在整个职业生涯中呢？詹姆斯已经进入生涯第21个赛季了，告诉我这些年来还有谁能像他一样表现出色？”

Saying that theres "NO WAY" that he'll surpass Jordan is crazy. He's already the best all around player of all-time and is on almost every single record list.

Saying that MJ's peak > LeBron's peak is fine but throughout their whole careers? LeBron is in his 21st season, tell me who else has produced like him over the years that he has?

[-]“他可不是最全能的球员，哈哈，乔丹才是。詹姆斯是身体素质最好的球员，但缺乏赢得伟大胜利的心态和意志。”

He’s not the best all around player lol, MJ was. Lebron is the most physically gifted player, but lacks the mentality and will to win for greatness.

[--]“乔丹可没有詹姆斯连续打10个赛季而不休息一年的意志和心态。”

Jordan didn’t have the will or mentality to play 10 seasons in a row without taking a year off.